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Caption: Preservation is hard. Witness the fence that , well, let's be frank, demarks the spot where 6167 should NOT have been placed. What does this mean? She's going to move again, as it's in the way of GO's expansion plans for Guelph and quite possibly foul of the siding. I commend the effort of the Locomotive 6167 Restoration Team who for 8 years guided the process toward this locomotives restoration, but someone in the ranks of the City's Engineers made an error when allowing this locomotive to be placed here, the City now pays rent to CNR since this was supposed to be placed on City owned land, not over the right of way.
How can you help? Get involved in your local preservation efforts. While the City of Guelph owns this locomotive, it's through groups like the Guelph Historical Railway Association and other Railway Museums in Canada that locomotives such as this even continue to exist in preserved form, and your support is highly appreciated. Join your local preservation group, or heck, join them from a distance and show your support. For those with a bit more time or energy, getting involved in preservation efforts is a good thing also. There's great locomotives and museums all over this country and unlike other countries, they really need your support!
And the fate of 6167? The rumours are swirling that it has to be moved again, and a new group of preservationists have to stand up for this locomotive and make sure it is done properly and in a way preserving it's honour. The members of the GHRA, some of which who took care of this locomotive since it arrived in 1967 will be the voice of this locomotive, as well as the fine folk who volunteer with the City on the restoration Committee. Preservation is hard, very hard work indeed.
And on a personal note to the folks at Metrolinx/GO: What's wrong if this locomotive is incorporated into the South Platform? A locomotive that hauled millions of passengers should be a fitting addition to a GO station and a monument to the technology of the first half of the 20th century that made it possible. I really see no reason why it should move very far from where it is now.
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3393 looks nice when washed!
This particular locomotive has the ability to be returned to service as a representative of CNR’s great days. Several thoughts to suggest for serious consideration: A0 Consider a complete service rebuild by CNR for all the people of Canada; B. If you aren’t going to operate her, at least cover the locomotive with a roof and enclosure. Vandals have no respect for history; C. Make certain the locomotive remains accessible for future generations. Preservation involves them, too!
I have a particular love for 6167, 6218, and 6060. CNR could do something wonderful by listening to echoes of the past. History is critical and here’s an opportunity to show it.
And at what cost PRR? Who has the millions to return a Steamer to service? Wouldn’t 6213 be a better candidate in Toronto and be far less money? Again, without millions to bankroll such an effort I’m afraid it’s just dreaming.
If we had money to return engines to service… there would be a lot more museums out there in better shape than they are now. I’m afraid many in North America, save for a few, are drowning in their own collections.
So far 6167 has not been demonised by Vandals, it’s in a good and visible location. The jury is out on an enclosure – won’t be a visible or photograph-able if there is one, plus who will maintain it.
It’ll be up to the City of Guelph, ultimately.
Joe, yes it does, glad it has been cleaned up.
Please don’t lecture me about preservation funding. I’m all too well acquainted with the subject. If you had a multi-billion dollar company behind the effort,as is the case with CNR, the relocation and/or restoration, would be only a matter of expertise. As far as 6213 goes, I’ve seen her as well as all the survivors (say 6218). It would still require a total tear-down. At minimum, 6167 requires an enclosure with a roof, if it’s to last longer than a decade in any location.
PRR then why are you expecting a “Multi Billion Dollar Company” to step in and agree to spend millions on a preservation project? Anyone acquainted with the subject would know that it’s the exception, not the rule when railway companies step in to fund such works.
6167 lasted longer than a decade at it’s old location and it was in the open air – over 40 years.
Nice shot. What time did this go through?
The usual time – 0850 is normal time, up to 50 minutes earlier on weekends and up to 30-40 minutes later is possible, but it’s fairly regular. This assumes 431 made it back the day prior of course.