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So the crew was “fired” the day of the incident ???
That seems unusually fast and is almost a guaranteed violation of their collective agreement. I’ve never heard of the company constructing and conducting an investigation that swiftly, plus what about their right to notice of investigation in writing and to be able to make arrangements for union representation ?
I don’t know for certain but what I think if you run a red, you’re done right away. Other sources suggest you’re “on vacation” for 30 or 90 days until the investigation is complete and then you’re fired.
I don’t think you should speculate on “rumours”?
You don’t know what happened here….rumours are nine times out of ten imbelished and sensationalized.
Dislike the caption for this photo.
Sorry
Well put RLK2211, I also “Dislike the caption for this photo”.
Things aren’t always as black and white as you may think, case in point.
http://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-reports/rail/2014/r14t0294/r14t0294.asp
Guys, you are welcome to dislike a caption but our youngest photographers don’t know any different nor do they understand the Grievance process.
Max is just young and ill informed and doesn’t know any better. Perhaps though he (and others) will learn a thing or two. Also, never trust what the media says , especially about Railroading.
I’m just glad no one got hurt. Let’s leave it at that
I totally agree with RLK2211!
Guys, what I heard on the spot of the accident is what I wrote. Next time I’ll refrain from writing “rumours” or details.
Maxim you’ve learned a valuable lesson. What people say… is just that, a rumour and subject to a LOT of BS
It is what I call “smashed GEVO”
Still where did they reroute?
Marty Cej, CP Spokesman ( used to a BNN anchor ) already issued a stmt yesterday saying it was human error.
the sad part about this – although a relatively minor mishap…the RR’s in Canada have become so politicized with Crude accidents…that this derailment has been on the national, business news, and local TV stations all day; I’ve seen Lisa Raitt on TV about it;..because it was in the heart of the city. Before 2012..it barely would have made page 5 of the paper, if that.
Yes, it’s a minor thing in the big picture, but it’s major in that the result would be very different if they’d plowed into the side of an oil train at Dufferin and Bathurst. So in a sense, everyone is lucky. What Lisa Raitt understands about it you could write in foot high letters on the head of a pin, but with the movement of oil by rail, which I’m completely in favour if, means that the railroads need to step up their safety game, pay more attention to the plant and the state of the crews, and care just a little less about the stockholders. The bar has been raised.
@Dave Brook… means that the railroads need to step up their safety game, pay more attention to the plant and the state of the crews? The derailment was caused by human error. It had nothing to do with the physical plant and so far we know NOTHING about the state of the crews.
If human beings are involved in any mode of transport there will always be a chance of an accident and since humans build computers, accidents can still happen. Period
ngineered4u; I think you missed my point. No this appears to be human error. However, I was referring to the broader issue of moving bulk hazardous cargo; the on going questions of crew rest that seem to be getting worse, the reductions in track maintenance staff. If you’re going to run 130 car oil trains through midtown Toronto, they’d better make sure that they’re looking after the plant; and their people. Because right now we have no idea of 235′s crew rest or if they just messed up. You’re right though; nothing is bullet proof.