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Nice shot, Steve. Good lighting too!
LOL but you were standing beside me
hehehe. Great to see you also. That was a fun day.
Still can’t understand why CP thinks they need THREE units to do industrial switching? Didn’t TH&B make do with one or two SW’s?
Well, if I may…
I witnessed during Stelco’s last peak (2010 or so) CP hauling 60 loaded slab cars from Stelco back to Kinnear. I had my young daughter at the time, and I took her to Belview park. I knew the train was coming but she and I were getting our ya ya’s out playing when we heard the deafening noise. I grabbed my camera and shot this
http://www.railpictures.ca/?attachment_id=8778
A symphony of noise – full notch 8, as they pulled out of the grade coming out of the Grimsby sub underpass.
What did the TH&B usually haul and how many cars would they have on an average train on the Belt Line back to Kinnear? That I cannot answer. CP also uses the three units as essentially a permanent roustabout job doing whatever they tell them to do, and the mainline pushing still is a thing, as well as the nightly Aberdeen transfer.
It’s mostly because of Aberdeen and all the coils and pellet loads, and when they’re pulling loads of scrap out of AIM in the north end. Aberdeen is all at might so we never see the main reason it’s a triple set. They also do pushing duties for northbound freights that meet certain criteria.
At night*
Haha was typing my response and put my phone down halfway and see Steve mentioned Aberdeen and pushing duties in the meantime.
Correct – CP’s “Train Area Marshalling” or “TrAM” system is responsible for this. Outlined in a bit more detail here
https://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-reports/rail/2010/r10t0213/r10t0213.html
When required, it forces the use of the pushers, or if not available, the crews might be told to remarshall or leave something behind to become compliant in Kinnear or Welland. But the pushers weren’t really a thing until around late 2013 / early 2014. Prior to that they simply doubled the hill and left part the train at the Jct.
Sweet scene. Nicely done, Stephen.
Same here..the three units. I notice a lot of jobs these days that were handled by a couple of SW1200RS’s back in the day, now with 3 1700 hp +. It’s a good sign then that railroading is alive and well with the extra HP for more tonnage. Are they always the same three Geep 38′s on the Kinnear job (give or take)? Havelock run too, always 3 38′s. CN however ‘switches’ their units around constantly.
Great shot Stephen.I drove by Kinnear Yard on Thursday around 1:30 and noticed a trio of rail-fans at the entrance to the Hamilton Brick Co. on Lawrence Rd.—at that time CP246 was sitting in the yard.Was that you ?
No, it was not me.